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Re: Issue: CLOSED-STREAM-OPERATIONS (Version 4)
- To: gsb@ALDERAAN.SCRC.Symbolics.COM
- Subject: Re: Issue: CLOSED-STREAM-OPERATIONS (Version 4)
- From: Kent M Pitman <KMP@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
- Date: Fri, 2 Dec 88 05:35 EST
- Cc: CL-Cleanup@SAIL.Stanford.EDU
- In-reply-to: <19881202043914.5.GSB@GANG-GANG.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
[Added CL-Cleanup back.]
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 88 23:39 EST
From: Glenn S. Burke <gsb@ALDERAAN.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
Subject: Re: Issue: CLOSED-STREAM-OPERATIONS (Version 4)
To: KMP@STONY-BROOK.SCRC.Symbolics.COM
In-Reply-To: <881201204134.4.KMP@BOBOLINK.SCRC.Symbolics.COM>
... Keep in mind whatever things go on with the "aggregate" streams,
e.g. bidirectional in particular might have semantic problems with
open-stream-p. ...
Actually, in Masinter's approach, you have the inverse problem with
INPUT-STREAM-P. What does it return on an aggregrate output stream
when some of the streams are closed and some are not.
On the basis of this, I retract my previous suggestion that we get
involved in OPEN-STREAM-P, and instead suggest that we just say
it's an error to call INPUT-STREAM-P or OUTPUT-STREAM-P (or WRITE or ...)
on any stream which has been closed or on any aggregrate stream
for which a component stream has been closed. People won't be able to
predicate this at runtime -- they'll just have to watch their control
flow and not let one of these things get into the hands of CLOSE.
I guess that correctly sums up the status quo, so it can't be any
worse than what we've got now. And what we have now isn't that bad --
every now and then someone complains that they wish they could tell if
a stream is open, but I've generally been able to look at their code and
show them how to rewrite it so that the issue didn't come up.