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getting a frame position

What is a simple way to find the current position of a frame on a screen?
BOUNDING-RECTANGLE and friends always return the same
position (near 0, 0) no matter where the frame is now positioned.
CLIM-INTERNALS::FRAME-GEOMETRY seems to always return :left 0 and :top 0,
or the original position the frame was created at, not the last position
the frame is at...

Thanks for your insight,

Olivier Clarisse

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