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Pete sent out the following request:
 
> Anyone got any experience/views on the window wars CLUE vs CLIM?  I've
> heard everything from CLIM being ignored to CLIM being an ANSI
> standard.

The following message is the agenda (so far) for a "birds of a feather"
meeting
at the upcoming X conference in Boston. For registration information
contact the X consortium:

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> Subject: Lisp BOF status
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> Subject: Lisp BOF status
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> 
> Thank you all for your help in making this an interesting BOF.  Here is
> what I have lined up so far:
> 
> Presentations from toolkit suppliers:
> 
>   (someone TBD)		Sun Microsystems
>     Solo
> 
>   Brad Myers		Carnegie Mellon University
>     Garnet
> 
>   Kerry Kimbrough	Texas Instruments
>     CLUE and CLIO
> 
>   Andrew Ressler
>     Express Windows
> 
>   Charles Hornig	Symbolics
>     CLIM
> 
> Some other Lisp vendors will also be presenting on where they stand on X
> toolkit issues:
> 
>   Steve Haflich		Franz
>     Where Franz stands on X toolkit issues.
> 
>   Judy Anderson		Lucid
>     Where Lucid stands on X toolkit issues.
> 
> I've also had people express interest in discussing the following
> issues:
> 
>   -- Using C toolkits from Lisp.
> 
>   -- Using raw CLX.
> 

	Sounds like fun - yes?

        Darryn Kozak

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