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Re: mcl general info request
- To: fadushin@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Fred Dushin)
- Subject: Re: mcl general info request
- From: bill@cambridge.apple.com (Bill St. Clair)
- Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1992 16:57:20 -0500
- Cc: info-mcl
>Could someone please answer some very general questions about
>mcl for me? I have a mac+ and am in need of a vanilla common
>lisp interpreter. What is mcl? Is it a commercial product?
>Where can I get it? How much is it? Can one get a simple
>interpreter without toolbox functions?
Here is an edited version of Mark Kantrowitz & Barry Margolin's
Lisp FAQ list. I have included only descriptions of Lisp & Scheme
implementations that claim to run on the Macintosh. MCL is one of the
described commercial Lisp implementations.
MCL will not run in a 1 Meg Mac plus. It requires at least 2.5 megs,
and will be happier in 4 megs.
Bill St. Clair
bill@cambridge.apple.com
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;;; Answers to Frequently Asked Questions about Lisp ***************
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;;; Written by Mark Kantrowitz and Barry Margolin
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Free Lisp implementations:
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XLISP is free, and runs on the IBM PC (MSDOS), Amiga (Atari ST),
Macintosh, and Unix. It should run on anything with a C compiler. It
was written by David Michael Betz, 127 Taylor Road, Peterborough, NH
03458. The reference manual was written by Tim Mikkelsen. Version 2.0
is available by anonymous ftp from
cs.orst.edu:/pub/xlisp/ [128.193.32.1] or
sumex-aim.stanford.edu:info-mac/lang/
Version 2.1 is the same as XLISP 2.0, but modified to bring it closer
to Common Lisp and with several bugs fixed. It can be obtained by
anonymous ftp from
glia.biostr.washington.edu 128.95.10.115
bikini.cis.ufl.edu 128.227.224.1
in the file xlisp21c.zip (soon xlisp21d.zip) and comes with IBM/PC
executables. For obtaining a copy through US mail, send email to Tom
Almy, toma@sail.labs.tek.com.
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Free Scheme implementations:
Many free Scheme implementations are available from altdorf.ai.mit.edu
[18.43.0.246]. See also the Scheme Repository described below in the
section about repositories of Lisp/Scheme code.
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SCM, free by anonymous ftp from altdorf.ai.mit.edu:archive/scm or
nexus.yorku.ca:pub/oz/scheme/new. Current version 3c. Runs on Amiga,
IBM PC, VMS, Macintosh, Unix, and similar systems. Scm conforms to
the Revised^4 Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme and the IEEE
P1178 specification. Scm is written in C. ASCII and EBCDIC are
supported.
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SIOD (Scheme in One Defun), free by anonymous ftp from
bu.edu:users/gjc/siod-v2.4-shar [128.197.2.6]. Runs on VAX/VMS, VAX
UNIX, Sun3, Sun4, Amiga, Macintosh, MIPS, Cray. Small scheme
implementation in C arranged as a set of subroutines that can be
called from any main program for the purpose of introducing an
interpreted extension language. Compiles to ~20K bytes of executable.
Lisp calls C and C calls Lisp transparently.
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Commercial Lisp implementations:
Macintosh Common Lisp (MCL) runs on the Apple Macintosh (Mac+ or
higher with 2.5mb RAM [4mb recommended] and system software 6.0.4 or
later) and is available from APDA for $495. It includes a native
CLOS, Macintosh Toolbox/interface toolkit, generational garbage
collection, incremental compiler, window-based debugger, source-code
stepper, object inspector, emacs-style editor, and a foreign function
(C) interface. Write to: APDA, Apple Computer Inc., 20525 Mariani
Avenue, MS 33-G, Cupertino, CA 95014-6299 or call toll free
1-800-282-2732 (US), 1-800-637-0029 (Canada), 1-408-562-3910. Their
fax number is 1-408-562-3971 and their telex is 171-576. Email may
also be sent to APDA@applelink.apple.com. There is a mailing list for
users <info-mcl@cambridge.apple.com> which is gatewayed to the
newsgroup comp.lang.lisp.mcl and vice versa. If you don't get news,
you can be added to the list by sending mail to
info-mcl-request@cambridge.apple.com.
Procyon Common Lisp runs on either the Apple Macintosh or IBM PC
(MSDOS), costing approximately $2700. It requires 8mb RAM on the
Macintosh and 5mb RAM on PCs, and includes a native CLOS with
meta-object protocol, incremental compilation, foreign function
interface, object inspector, text editor, debugger, and trace. Write
to: ExperTelligence, Inc., 5638 Hollister Ave, Suite 302, Goleta, CA
93117 or call 1-800-828-0113, (805) 967-1797. Their fax is (805)
964-8448 and email is D2042@applelink.apple.com. An alternate address
for British customers is: Procyon Research Ltd., Block B, Westbrook
Centre, Milton Road, Cambridge CB4 1YQ, UK, with phones 011
44-223-421221, 011 44-223-65011, FAX 011 44-223-460290, and email
UK0061@applelink.apple.com.
Franz Lisp 2.0 runs on the Apple Macintosh, requiring 1mb RAM for the
interpreter ($99) and 2.5mb RAM for the compiler ($199). Write to:
Fort Pont Research, 15 Fort Pond Road, Acton, MA 01720 or call
1-508-263-9692.
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Commercial Scheme implementations:
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MacScheme is a Scheme interpreter and compiler for the Apple Macintosh, and
includes an editor, debugger and object system. MacScheme costs $125
(includes compiler) and Scheme Express costs $70 (interpreter only). It
requires 1mb RAM. A development environment (MacScheme+Toolsmith) costs
$395. Conforms to the Revised^4 Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme.
MacScheme+Toolsmith includes support for menus, windows, and interfaces to
the Macintosh Toolbox, and can create small standalone Macintosh
executables. Implemented by Will Clinger, John Ulrich, Liz Heller and Eric
Ost. Write to: Lightship Software, PO Box 1636, Beaverton, OR 97075, or
call (503) 292-8765. They're moving to California. The temporary phone
number is 415-940-4008 (Liz Heller). The new phone number will be
415-694-7799.
EdScheme runs on Macintosh, DOS and Atari Amiga and costs $50. It includes
an incremental compiler, and editor, and is a close match to the IEEE
standard. Implemented by Iain Ferguson, Edward Martin, and Burt Kaufman.
The book (The Schemer's Guide) costs $30. Write to: Schemers Inc., 4250
Galt Ocean Mile, Suite 7U, Fort Lauderdale, FL 33308, call (305) 776-7376,
or fax (305) 749-3541. You can also send email to 71020.1774@compuserve.com
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