We are looking for an OODB system like Statice, but uses CLOS as the object system (not necessarily PCL) instead of Flavors. So here are two questions: 1) Are there any commercial systems like this? 2) Has anybody took Statice and made it into a CLOS Statice? The invariant thing of our needs is CLOS compatibility. Thanks, Albert Boulanger BBN Systems and Technologies Corporation aboulanger@bbn.com