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    Date: Mon, 6 Feb 89 11:45:54 EST
    From: Guy Steele <gls@Think.COM>

       Date: 3 Feb 89 22:55 PST
       From: masinter.pa@xerox.com

       One reason to send it out to X3J13 is to arbitrate on our notes. I notice
       that Moon's notes say "Accepted with amendment that CLOSE of a closed
       stream returns NIL".

       Mary (or anyone else): do you have a record of the amendment & vote on

    For what it is worth, my notes say "amended that CLOSE of a closed
    stream return NIL."

Personally, I think this is -awful-. I think one ought not be able to depend
on the result in this case because implementations might reasonably differ
about whether the first CLOSE really closed the stream. As such,


might reasonably return (T T) or (T NIL), for example, depending on whether
the implementation represents the concept of `open-ness' for all streams.
The same is true for string streams.

The issue is even weirder for composite (eg, broadcast) streams where some
streams are initially open and others are not, since I think we have no 
clear theory of whether such a stream is opened or closed.

I strongly suggest we consider reverting this decision in favor of either
the proposal as drafted, or some decision which is consistent with the model
I've cited above, or else that we bundle this stuff in with the issue which
is discussing the OPEN-STREAM-P operation since the issues are intimately 
related. It's my understanding that that issue is now called 
INPUT-STREAM-P-CLOSED and that there is no proposal written. Please correct
me if that's not so.