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I really don't agree with your evaluation of Macintosh CL from Apple. 
Obviously it was not really compared to what's on the market, but to the
ultimate, absolutely ideal development environment.  If this is the scale
you use, no product, ever, should have more than **.  However, in that
case, MCL should keep its ***.    ;-)


Vincent Keunen
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