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> Gack!  This surprising behavior can be obtained simply by loading
> CLIM!  Bern, are you trying this in an environment with CLIM 1.0
> loaded?

> This bug is caused by a team effort of several random Genera/CLIM
> facilities.

> I am going to be pretty embarrassed if Mr. Wild is not using

You are absolutely right!! We use Genera 8.1 with CLIM 1.0. In the  
former 8.0 world no CLIM was loaded.
We used the STREAMP function for our database system for persistent  
CLOS objects in order to test the things to be stored. If they are  
streams we simply ignore them. Otherwise we know how to dump them  
out. Now with 8.1+CLIM nearly everything is a stream so nothing can  
be stored! We are now looking for a different test which works as  
Bernd Wild

Bernd Wild                                       

Forschungszentrum Informatik FZI
Dept. Technical Expert Systems and Robotics
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