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- To: trwrb!smpvax1!jrg@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
- Subject: bignums
- From: Jon L White <edsel!jonl@labrea.stanford.edu>
- Date: Thu, 4 Aug 88 22:32:30 PDT
- Cc: cl-cleanup@sail.stanford.edu
- In-reply-to: trwrb!smpvax1!jrg@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU's message of Fri, 29 Jul 88 19:07:48 PDT <8807300207.AA26084@trwrb.TRW.COM>
re: I'd also advocate further specifying that "bignums" really
should have range limited only my memory space and that using a fixed
bit-field size is NOT an appropriate implementation of "bignums".
Have you considered the possibility that for even moderately small
"fixed bit-field" sizes, the range of bignums specified is larger
than any reasonable amount of virtual memory that your operating
system will allow you to have (and garbage collect)?
Seriously, I have advocated a minimum size for most-positive-fixnum as
about 2â??24-1, which I think is defensible in terms of hardware to do
"efficient" arithmetic. Do you feel like proposing (and defending) a
minimum size for most-positive-bignum?
Two interesing stories (really true!):
(1) During the days that Bill Gosper was computing larger and larger
decimal expansions of pi, he happened upon a huge bignum on the 3600
that caused it to "die of constipation". It seems that sufficient
space had been allocated for it, but at the time of a GC flip, there
wasn't sufficient space to copy it. [This was about 1984 I think.]
(2) A similar thing actually happened to me later, on a 3600. Suspecting
that I knew about a "bit-field size", I was intending to compute
log2(most-positive-bignum); but unfortunately a typo put in some extra
shifting steps, so that I actually computed something close to
most-positive-bignum. As in RWG's case, I finally got caught by the
GC-flip, and fell into some sort of debugger loop. I intercepted it
a couple days later in a state of catatonia -- apparently it was trying
to print out the arguments in the frame that had caused the death, and
printing most-positive-bignum in base 10 appeared to be taking some time
. . .
-- JonL --
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