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Re: More about OPEN-WINDOW-STREAM
In <CMM.0.90.2.702940477.pkarp@Rockaway.AI.SRI.COM>, Peter Karp writes:
>
> I for one wish that I did not have to deal with the window managers at
> all. I want to be able to specify at the CLIM level where and how a
> window appears, both for application windows and popup menus. CLIM
> should insulate us from the variability at the window manager level.
> If window placement can be set by the user interactively, randomly
> set, or determined by the application, these options should all exist
> at the CLIM level so the programmer can specify exactly what they want
> in one way that ensures that the behavior of the application does not
> change when it runs under a different window manager. For example, I
> use olwm and I cannot see any of its options that correspond to the
> suggested mod to .twmrc. I don't want to have to waste my time
> dealing with the window managers.
>
> Is this possible technically? How about adding this to CLIM?
Conversely, I for one hope that I never have to deal with "rogue" X
applications (like this would allow) at all. The whole purpose of a window
manager is to handle screen real estate, insulating us from the variability
of different applications by providing cross-application consistency about
where and how windows appear, both application windows and popup menus. As
a CLIM programmer, I shouldn't have to worry about whether window placement
is to be set by the the user interactively, randomly set, or determined by
my application. By not forcing this at the CLIM level, this ensures that
the behavior of the application will change according to the user's
preferences when it runs under a different window manager.
In short, I don't want to have to waste my time dealing with issues that
are the responsibility of window managers. Please don't add this to CLIM.
Pete
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