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   From: Peter Forster <>
   Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:59:10 +0200

      Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:49:17 -0500
      From: (Bill St. Clair)

      >>There is a fully functional demo version of CLIM 1.0 (binaries)
      >>on the MCL 2.0 CD-ROM - maybe this will be helpful in the interim.
      >Sadly ;-) this is a true demo version and not fully functional.
      >These guys want to sell CLIM. Macros like DEFINE-APPLICATION-FRAME
      >or DEFINE-PRESENTATION-METHOD are not working.

      You might try asking about CLIM for MCL 2.0 on the main CLIM mailing list:

   When is a new CLIM upgrade for MCL(final) available? The delivery
   strategy for CLIM is confusing - the MCL documentation contains a
   reference to Lucid - I have bought CLIM from ILA and think that ILA
   has to deliver the upgrade. 

I am forwarding a message that was recently sent to Info-MCL regarding
the status of CLIM for the Mac.

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    From: doughty@daffy-duck.HQ.Ileaf.COM (Dennis Doughty)
    Subject: CLIM-MCL(final)
    Date: 15 Aug 92 17:20:46 GMT
    Original-To: (Peter Forster)

       Date: 13 Aug 92 14:35:06 GMT
       From: (Peter Forster)

       A half year ago we got CLIM 1.0 from ILA for our MAC. This week we
       installed the MAC 2.0 (final version) and recognize that CLIM 1.0
       could not be installed with MAC 2.0, because the binary type of the
       clim files is different of the binary type of  MAC 2.0 (final
       version). Where can we get the new CLIM upgrade for MCL 2.0?

    Bill York and I (the original MCL CLIM developers) have acquired the
    MCL CLIM product from ILA.  Under the name Illudium Software, we will
    continue to develop and distribute MCL CLIM.  Our first task is the
    completion of MCL CLIM 1.1 for MCL 2.0 final, which we expect to
    deliver shortly (this means a small integer number of weeks, not
    months).  MCL CLIM 1.1 will be equivalent to the CLIM 1.1 available
    from Symbolics, Lucid, and Franz for their platforms.  Once MCL CLIM
    1.1 is shipping, we will turn our attentions to MCL CLIM 2.0, in
    conjunction with the CLIM 2.0 efforts of the other vendors.

    If you have any other questions, or would like to place an order for
    MCL CLIM, please contact me or Bill via direct email or by phone.
    We're having some email distribution problems (isn't that always how
    it is?), so for the near term you can reach us at:

    Dennis Doughty:

    Bill York:

    or you may call us at 1-415-968-3656.

    -- Dennis Doughty

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In addition, we are currently pursuing an arrangement under which
Lucid will assume distribution and support for the MCL CLIM
product(s).  (In case you didn't know, Lucid will soon begin
distribution and support of MCL 2.0 itself, so the addition of MCL
CLIM seemed like a natural.)


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