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presentation coordinates, or FORMATTED-CELL coordinates

Greetings.. great to be back on the net and this list.

My question: I'm presenting a small graphic  within a
formatting-cell, within a formatting-table.  How can I either a) get
the coordinates where the item is being presented within the
formatting call, or b) keep the presentation and later look at its
coordinates.  Either will do.  Should this be obvious to me?  I  can't
seem to use stream-cursor-position* within the formatting cell call.



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