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window sizes

Does anyone know how to determine the total external dimensions of a
view, including the title bar? (view-size ..) doesn't include the title bar.

While I'm at it.. Is there a way to add cursor types to MCL I'm
specifically looking for a crosshair "+" but a general method would be useful.

Thanks for the help.
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Richard Ferrante
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