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Re: Future Plans for MCL
- To: firstname.lastname@example.org
- Subject: Re: Future Plans for MCL
- From: Al Reich <email@example.com>
- Date: Mon, 21 Feb 94 10:00:49 CST
- Cc: reich@AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM
- Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25]
Apple is making a big mistake by discontinuing support for MCL.
However, assuming that they are set in this decision, I strongly
encourage them to sell the MCL product line to a good software
developer (and don't try to get rich on the deal either). If Apple
can't figure out what do to with a winning product, give it to some
else who can.
In my business area at Lockheed in Austin we are mostly a Unix-box
shop. There are very few Macs or PCs around. Most of our development
is for government customers. We use both Lucid and Allegro CL for
prototype development. MCL on a Mac (and especially the PPC) appeared
to be a very cost effective path to take in the future. Recently, I
convinced one of our customers to take this path. Fortunately, no
purchases have been made yet. I made a mistake by trying to go with
Apple. I'm going to be very wary of them in the future. The PPC has
lost much (if not all) of its appeal to me. Back to square one.
BTW, I wonder if anyone in marketing at Apple has seen the following
statistics on USENET readership. They imply a few things for me:
(1) C++ hasn't quite taken over the world yet. In fact, the ratio
of C++ readers to Lisp readers (2.5 to 1) is considerably
smaller than what I had expected.
(2) Within the Lisp community, the MCL news group is very large and
active (Sadly, this will probably change for the worse now).
> From: Brad Miller <firstname.lastname@example.org>
> Organization: University of Rochester Computer Science Dept
> Date: Wed Feb 09 16:44:20 CST 1994
> Culled from the USENET readership report for January, posted for
> informational/evangelical purposes only.
> +-- Estimated total number of people who read the group, worldwide.
> | +-- Actual number of readers in sampled population
> | | +-- Propagation: how many sites receive this group at all
> | | | +-- Recent traffic (messages per month)
> | | | | +-- Recent traffic (kilobytes per month)
> | | | | | +-- Crossposting percentage
> | | | | | | +-- Cost ratio: $US/month/rdr
> | | | | | | | +-- Share: % of newsrders
> | | | | | | | | who read this group.
> V V V V V V V V
> 190000 2265 87% 2449 4264.8 10% 0.03 4.5% comp.lang.c
> 180000 2169 85% 2795 4872.2 9% 0.04 4.3% comp.lang.c++
> 73000 896 80% 152 967.3 37% 0.02 1.8% comp.lang.lisp
> 44000 538 75% 23 29.1 0% 0.00 1.1% comp.lang.lisp.x
> 42000 516 72% 13 27.7 0% 0.00 1.0% comp.lang.lisp.franz
> 41000 501 76% 124 229.4 0% 0.01 1.0% comp.lang.lisp.mcl
> 9300 114 24% 26 39.5 0% 0.00 0.2% comp.org.lisp-users
> 8500 104 24% 51 142.3 4% 0.01 0.2% comp.std.lisp
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