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Re: MCL's gone, now what?
- To: info-mcl@ministry.cambridge.apple.com
- Subject: Re: MCL's gone, now what?
- From: grant@pentagon-gw.army.mil (Pete Grant)
- Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 11:27:27 GMT
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp.mcl
- Organization: U.S. Army Artificial Intelligence Center, The Pentagon
- References: <9402212348.AA08728@olympus.net>
In article <9402212348.AA08728@olympus.net> jwbaxter@olympus.net (John W. Baxter) writes:
>
>Rich Lynch says,
>
>>So, now that the death bell is tolling, what should a poor guy do?
>>I've already sunk more into MACL/MCL than I can afford:
>...
>>So, what's it cost to get a decent c environment? [shudder]
>
>About the same as MCL. The decent one seems to be about to be CodeWarrior
>from MetroWerks.
Wrong; it's much less. However, you'll have to switch platforms. Borland
C++ (and we should talk about C++, not C if we're considering switching
from Lisp) v-4.0 is available for around $250 for new users. Upgrades from
previous versions cost less. Microsoft Visual C++ is $200 - $500 depending
on whether one gets the 'professional version or standard or 32-bit NT.
The bottom line: Apple loses sales of their hardware as well as whatever
the MCL sales were.
>
>Symantec doesn't seem anxious to remove the bugs from Think C.
>
I don't have the latest version -- mine is 5.0. It's a nice (not great, just
nice) environment but I use it very little. Symantec's C++ (C Plus Object)
is too different syntactically from ANSI C++ to make common code to run on
C++ and Symantec's. I tried. My code soon became cluttered with all the
#ifdefs ... #elses. Bottom line: If switching to C++, go with the leaders
and move to Intel.
Pete.