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In defence of jd (was: A Dylan implemented on Common Lisp)
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- Subject: In defence of jd (was: A Dylan implemented on Common Lisp)
- From: email@example.com (Simon Brooke)
- Date: Fri, 10 Mar 1995 11:47:00 GMT
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In article <D53J7v.9oB@sybase.com>, Lee Schumacher <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>In article <D5345w.3xC@cogsci.ed.ac.uk>, email@example.com (Jeff
>|> Note that Scott Fahlman was one of the designers of Common Lisp
>|> and had plenty of opportunities to eliminate any irritations that
>|> irritated him.
>|> -- jd
>I'm sorry, but you have no standing to criticize Fahlman here. First of
>all, CL was largely design by commitee, and no one had any absolute power
>over it. Secondly, if anyone did have that power it was Guy Steele, who
>wrote the manual, and not Scott. Thirdly, Scott has devoted years of his
>life to cmu cl, which is one of the most complete and robust lisps ever
>seen and is free to all. Have you made even 1% of that contribution
>to lisp world ? I don't think so.
Well, I do. Jeff was practically the lone advocate of the Common LISP
project on this of the pond, in the face of an initially quite hostile
european LisP community. He played a very important liaison role
between X3J13 and BSI IST/5/16, effectively acting as ambassador for
Common LISP; and consequently the widespread international acceptance
of the Common LisP standard is partly Jeff's doing. He's also put
quite a bit of work into EuLisp (and no doubt done a lot of other
important things which I don't know about).
It must be widely known by now that I *never* agree with Jeff about
*anything*, so you can take this as an unbiased account.
------- firstname.lastname@example.org (Simon Brooke)
...but have you *seen* the size of the world wide spider?