Three Dialnet Questions

[paul@PERSEPHONE.aegean-sea.dialnet.symbolics.com (Paul Cross)]

    Date: Tue, 7 May 1991 10:46-0400
    From: Reti@RIVERSIDE.SCRC.Symbolics.COM

	Date: Mon, 6 May 1991 14:45 EDT
	From: paul@aegean-sea.dialnet.symbolics.com (Paul Cross)

	2) Has anyone updated a file called macterm.lisp, which, combined with a
	file called password.lisp, allows you to login to Symbolics machines
	over the phone?  I think these files were originally authored by Mark
	Tait.  macterm.lisp defines

	uss:(defmethod (input-top-level nbs-console-async-interface) ()

	but the package uss does not exist in 8.0.
    Yes, the implementation of serial changed completely.  I'm not familiar
    with the files you refer to (and would appreciate a pointer to them if
    they are available at SCRC). However, you can login via async serial to
    Symbolics machines (and use the same facilities available if you
    telnet to them) without any extra files.  This doesn't give you complete
    access, i.e. you can't run Zmacs, but it is better than nothing.

I could e-mail the files to you if you want to take a look.  One is 2k,
the other is 14k in size.  I'll check to see if it isn't online at SGD.

Here's what I want to do:  I want to be able to login remotely over the
phone to my machine and do things like :Scan Mail and :Show File.  If
there was a simple means of file transfer, I'd like that too, but :show
file with captured output is good enough for me.  I'm looking for a
reasonable level of security.  If someone tries to login, they ought to
be prompted for a password before they are allowed any access.  They
shouldn't be able to get around supplying a password by any simple or
obvious means.  The files above gave me this capability in 7.2.  Can I
do all this without extra files?

	how my return address drops the host field.  My return address ought to
	read paul@persephone.aegean-sea.dialnet.symbolics.com but is
	paul@aegean-sea.dialnet.symbolics.com instead.
    My customer who uses a Hayes modem doesn't appear to have this problem (but he
    is also not using multiple levels of domain name under dialnet).  Are

I am only using internet for dialnet.  The problem was that I was
specifying an incorrect internet domain name attribute for the host, as
you and RSL correctly guessed.  I have two other clients who had the
exact same problem, and all of us swear that we followed the
documentation exactly.  I'll try to find the part of the documentation
that steered us wrong and suggest that Symbolics change it.