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T in reality
- To: franz-friends@Berkeley
- Subject: T in reality
- From: Barry Shein <BARRYS%MIT-OZ@MIT-MC.ARPA>
- Date: Sun, 5 Feb 84 06:49:00 GMT
- Original-date: Sun 5 Feb 84 01:49-EST
I hate to inject a strong dose of reality into this
discussion but I feel obligated to share my recent
experience with T with this community:
We recently (Jan) went from 4.1 to 4.2bsd. I gen'd
in the 4.1 compatibility mode. One of the few programs
that would not run was T. I sat down, looked at the
sources and prepared to maybe make a few small fixes
and recompile. It is not 'written in T' nearly to the
degree claimed, tons of it is written in LAP
(ie. assembler with parens around it.)
Worse, we couldn't recompile it on a 4.1 system (Harvard's
VAX.) Worse, when we called YALE they seemed disinterested.
For example, the makefile provided refers to TWENEX files
and (mostly) unix stuff.
Result, a graduate student with lots of beached code.
He finally got it to work by some obscure patch but
I would think twice before relying on T, the software
engineering behind Franz make it MUCH more reasonable
to use in my opinion. The comparisons pale against this
kind of lossage.
PostScript: If, for some reason, I was working with some
totally unrepresentative version of T, my apologies. It
is possible (I relied on the grad student to get me the
necessary code) but I doubt that is the case.