Hi, **I'M SO SORRY!!!*** MY MISTAKE! The 'bug' I reported of the lexical-closure functions not working only don't work under 7.1. I got worried and tried them under 7.2, and sure enough they work. Sorry for the stupid message; we're trying to break out of the 7.1 dark-ages before 7.2 becomes obsolete, but I don't bet too highly on it. red-faced, chris sterritt